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Meaning of Boliyan

[NYFAC]Parhar

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As we saw with the last thread where we took apart boliyan and learned the meanings, I would like to start a Pinned Thread where we can hopefully add clear videos and give transliterations and translations for the boliyan.

I will start it off with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFqXAxWsECw&feature=PlayList&p=F574466790EC7115&index=16

We will start with the Sher @ 0 mins and 40s:

Sanu(Us) Vair(making enemy) Kamaonay(to make) Nahi(no) Aunday(to be able to)

Vairey(enemies) Aemvee(no reason) Saathon(us) Kabhrai-Jaanday(to be scared of)

Muchhan(Moustaches) Kundiyan(Curled) Rakhna(to have) Shonk(Hobby) Sada(ours)

Loki(people) Galt(wrong) Andaazay(aim) Lai-Janday(to put on)

Sanu(us) Chust-Chalaki (Cunningness) Nahi(no) Aundi(to be able to)

Jo (what) Kahiye(say) Kar-Ke(to do) Dekhiye(show) Janday(to put on)

Translation:

We don?t like making enemies

Our enemies are scared of us for no reason

Keeping curled Moustaches is only a hobby

But, People have the wrong idea of us

We don?t know how to be cunning

We only stand by what we say
 

mafzal

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Thanks Parhar, This is an awesome thread I hope everyone who can adds to it... Those of us who can't understand Punjabi very well really appreciate it :)
 

[NYFAC]Parhar

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Shaan(honor) Dharam(religion) di(of) assin(us) hai(to be) kaim(care) rakhni(to take)

Aehsaan(not sure, if it is asaan, then ) dharm(religion) da(of) sambhnan(to take care) jaan(know) de-han(how)

Daulay(in Punjabi refers to arm (not forearm) and now mostly biceps) farakdey(literally= twitch) vairey(enemy) nu dekh(see) saaday(ours)

Tayion(that?s why) mure(ahead) ho(be) hikkan(chest) tahn(stick out) de han

Kehray(which) baag(garden) di-a(of) tu(you) muli(radish)

Maan(pride) hankaariyan(some one with too much pride> hankaari with a nasal N) da torh(break) na jaan(to know) de han

Lalkariya(like brrruuaah, basically to impugn to put into question) je kise(someone) ne khich(to pull, but here to draw) lakeer(line) sanu

Fateh(victory) Bulah(say) maidaan(battle) jeona(live) jaan(know) de haan

Translation:
We know how to keep the honor of our religion alive
We know how to honor the favor that our religion has dealt us
Our biceps twitch(come to power)when we see our enemy
Thats why we puff our chests and stand in the front

Oh radish, what garden are you from (sarcasm)
we know how to take down the best
anyone who questions our honor by drawing a line
we know how to attain victory in that battle
 

Ashqe

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Once again thanks for all the help bro, I gotta agree that I love this thread haha. But, could you help with the Jugni boli at 6:42?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RBfvoeCqeo

Also, could anyone help with like a translation of the main chorus of Hawawaan and maybe like a basic idea of what the lyrics mean in furr? Thanks a lot.
 

[NYFAC]Parhar

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Transliteration:
Dudh(milk) madani(Churning device) paigey(put in) eh
tharkay(dental th, definition=morning) utthgey(wake up) haali-paali(referring to farmers as someone who takes care of the world)
keyan(some) halt(attatches the bulls to well) jor-leh(put together) ne
keyan(some) moda(shoulder) kahi(plowing shovel) tikali(to place)
channa(a shallow bowl) dudh(milk) tah peekay(drink) tan
fer(then) utthey(on/above) hatth(hand) muchhan(moustaches) teh pheray(to go across)
Tindan(large apparatus that is inside well, a circles with flat paddles all across its circumference, that pulls water), khoo(well) vich(inside) kharak(to make noise to hit) peyan(started) jado(when) dithe(give) halt de gehray(turns)

The milk is being churned
In the morning, the farmers wake to provide for the world
Some gather their bulls
while others pick up their tilling shovels
they drink milk and then wipe their moustaches
the Tindan, make noise when the bulls go around the well.
 

Manjot

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[NYFAC]Parhar said:
Transliteration:
Dudh(milk) madani(Churning device) paigey(put in) eh
tharkay(dental th, definition=morning) utthgey(wake up) haali-paali(referring to farmers as someone who takes care of the world)
keyan(some) halt(attatches the bulls to well) jor-leh(put together) ne
keyan(some) moda(shoulder) kahi(plowing shovel) tikali(to place)
channa(a shallow bowl) dudh(milk) tah peekay(drink) tan
fer(then) utthey(on/above) hatth(hand) muchhan(moustaches) teh pheray(to go across)
Tindan(large apparatus that is inside well, a circles with flat paddles all across its circumference, that pulls water), khoo(well) vich(inside) kharak(to make noise to hit) peyan(started) jado(when) dithe(give) halt de gehray(turns)

The milk is being churned
In the morning, the farmers wake to provide for the world
Some gather their bulls
while others pick up their tilling shovels
they drink milk and then wipe their moustaches
the Tindan, make noise when the bulls go around the well.
1 of my fav boli!
 

ban3rg

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[NYFAC]Parhar said:
As we saw with the last thread where we took apart boliyan and learned the meanings, I would like to start a Pinned Thread where we can hopefully add clear videos and give transliterations and translations for the boliyan.

I will start it off with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFqXAxWsECw&feature=PlayList&p=F574466790EC7115&index=16

We will start with the Sher @ 0 mins and 40s:

Sanu(Us) Vair(making enemy) Kamaonay(to make) Nahi(no) Aunday(to be able to)

Vairey(enemies) Aemvee(no reason) Saathon(us) Kabhrai-Jaanday(to be scared of)

Muchhan(Moustaches) Kundiyan(Curled) Rakhna(to have) Shonk(Hobby) Sada(ours)

Loki(people) Galt(wrong) Andaazay(aim) Lai-Janday(to put on)

Sanu(us) Chust-Chalaki (Cunningness) Nahi(no) Aundi(to be able to)

Jo (what) Kahiye(say) Kar-Ke(to do) Dekhiye(show) Janday(to put on)

Translation:

We don?t like making enemies

Our enemies are scared of us for no reason

Keeping curled Moustaches is only a hobby

But, People have the wrong idea of us

We don?t know how to be cunning

We only stand by what we say

Katos in that video are Madddd tall - why have i never seen that in the US?
 

Basim

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Parhar, you're a baller man! ;D +10 for you

This is definitely the BEST thread on BTF. One of the moderators please sticky this for future reference.. anyone can ask for a boli, song, or general punjabi translation here!

Keep it up bro, I'm definitely gonna check this thread out all the time.

~ Basim
 

[NYFAC]Parhar

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Tuckerrr, this is for the one at 2:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nzFHfQk4Fw&eurl=http://bhangrateamsforum.com/discuss/index.php?topic=1759.0

Sadah(always) nittrey(win/ come out on top) maidaan(battle) vichon(from within) soormey(the brave)
Sadah Nitrey
Eh(these) hi(are) gallan(conversation, but here more like 'things known') jag(world) jaanda(knows) haaniya(friend), haaniya
Furti(agility) Punjabiyan(punjabis) nu ditti(given) panjan(panj= 5, referring to 5) paniyan(waters)
Furti Punjabiyan nu ditti panjan paniyan

Translation:
The brave always come out on top in a battle
These are the only stories that- people know- (or could be translated loosely as) -are passed down generation to generation
The five rivers give these punjabis their agility.

Enjoy your new boli =)
 

Summy

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Sorry to burst the party bubble here, but I think it is important to point out that this thread is popular when it shouldnt be.

I think we should spend less time translating the meanings of our language, and emphasizing the learning of our language to younger kids. This was so depressing to look at, just because it has been well recieved when people should realize that this speaks more to the lack of true cultural ties that exist in our culture today.

Disappointed,
Summinder Singh
 

Ashqe

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I guess I can see your point Summy but I love this thread because for non-Punjabi people like me, this thread is so great because I learn more about Punjabi and more about the bolis that are a part of Bhangra. I agree that it is important for the youth to learn more about their Punjabi culture if they are in fact Punjabi, but shouldn't it be also be good that although people aren't as exposed to Punjabi culture as they would have been if they were living in India because they either live in the US or Canada or wherever, that they are willing and eager to learn more with the help of others?

Although there might be a noticeable disconnect with people and their culture because of their western upbringing, it should never be too late to learn more about your culture no matter how old you are. It's better to look at the future, eager to learn more, than frown at how much you've wasted your past not being exposed to your culture. Just my thoughts..
 

COMTONDAJATT

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Summy said:
Sorry to burst the party bubble here, but I think it is important to point out that this thread is popular when it shouldnt be.

I think we should spend less time translating the meanings of our language, and emphasizing the learning of our language to younger kids. This was so depressing to look at, just because it has been well recieved when people should realize that this speaks more to the lack of true cultural ties that exist in our culture today.

Disappointed,
Summinder Singh
Kind of bittersweet sure. I understand your sentiment. On the flip side though this is a way for people who don't understand folk culture and boliyan to get a taste. Maybe it will inspire them to learn more and learn how to read and write or something fun like that.
 

[NYFAC]Parhar

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Summinder Singh Ji, I am 20 years old and have just recently begun to learn the Punjabi Script of Gurmukhi, I agree that we should learn punjabi but this word translation is also important, because like Ashque paaji said, it is important for non-punjabis to understand the meanings of the boliyan at a superficial level.
People can pick up the Punjabi Script easier than the language. People can write a word in Gurmukhi, they can read it in Gurmukhi, but to understand that word in the full context of culture is a project for the human village. That is why this community needs people to nurture this project, not be "disappointed" in someone trying to make a small difference.

And i totally agree with COMTONDAJATT, learning these boliyan might be a predna (inspiration) for people to learn punjabi =)
 

mafzal

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Summy said:
Sorry to burst the party bubble here, but I think it is important to point out that this thread is popular when it shouldnt be.

I think we should spend less time translating the meanings of our language, and emphasizing the learning of our language to younger kids. This was so depressing to look at, just because it has been well received when people should realize that this speaks more to the lack of true cultural ties that exist in our culture today.

Disappointed,
Summinder Singh
What the heck? Do you want us to sit around and be depressed instead? I don't understand. Okay so we realize the lack of cultural ties... like this isn't helping? You pointed something out, sure, but don't hate on the thread yo. I can't believe you're saying "it shouldn't be popular". ??? Like ashqe said, what about urdu/hindi/guju/etc speakers... I'm sorry but we can be connected to our culture and still not totally understand punjabi boliyaan -- either A) it's not part of our culture (nonpunjabis) but we are interested, or we are trying (punjabis). And what do you want us to do, you're saying less translating on BTF (which is helping a huge crowd of people including punjabis and non-punjabis alike) and go teach some kids instead?

I don't get what you're so disappointed in. I mean I do get what you're disappointed in,
but I do not see the connection to this discussion.

I know you have good intentions and you're trying to bring about positive change, Summy, but the way you speak tends to be so negative and you're so pessimistic it just makes me mad and uninterested instead.
 

[NYFAC]Parhar

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Here is the chorus? (is that all of it) for Hawaavan(Winds)

Kothay (the 'th' is retroflex, roll your tongue)- Roof
Char(climb, to get on top of) Waalan(hair, in modern Punjabi it refers to hair every where, but in old punjabi, Kes was the hair on the head) Nu Sakon(dry) Waliye(doer of an action, female)
Teray(from) Kolon(near) Langan(pass) Hawaavan(the winds) Sang(embarassed) Ke

Suraj(Sun) Dupheray(noon time) Fikka(bland, usually used to decribe taste though) Paun(to put) Waliye
Das(tell) Kitthon(from where) Leh(take) Ke Aiye(come) Roop(beauty) Mang(ask) Ke

Translation:

Standing on the roof drying your hair
Even the winds pass by embarassed

You, the one who makes the sun bland even at noon time
tell me from where did you ask for this beauty
 

ban3rg

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[NYFAC]Parhar said:
Here is the chorus? (is that all of it) for Hawaavan(Winds)

Kothay (the 'th' is retroflex, roll your tongue)- Roof
Char(climb, to get on top of) Waalan(hair, in modern Punjabi it refers to hair every where, but in old punjabi, Kes was the hair on the head) Nu Sakon(dry) Waliye(doer of an action, female)
Teray(from) Kolon(near) Langan(pass) Hawaavan(the winds) Sang(embarassed) Ke

Suraj(Sun) Dupheray(noon time) Fikka(bland, usually used to decribe taste though) Paun(to put) Waliye
Das(tell) Kitthon(from where) Leh(take) Ke Aiye(come) Roop(beauty) Mang(ask) Ke

Translation:

Standing on the roof drying your hair
Even the winds pass by embarassed

You, the one who makes the sun bland even at noon time
tell me from where did you ask for this beauty
vah vah i never could tell the meaning of this song from context so now that i finally know i really love it, very poetic.

Probably another very poetic song is Rumaal by Jelly. Very good chorus!
 
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