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Its not BALLS its ARROGANCE. Lol. i was laughign AT KOBE when he said that. You think being down 3-0, something NOONES come back from, you'd show some humility.ENVY BANG-RUH said:Again, desire, show who has balls enough to say that knowing what the odds (98-0) are. It's over now, time to rebuild.Kush said:"Maybe I'm sick in the head..." - Kobe Bryant
Yup.
I'm gonna have to agree with you. Either way the trophy will come back to the east. I'm just proud of the Hawks for winning tonight and throwing a kink in the Bulls game and I'm glad we did it in ATL. You don't get that chance everyday and I'm glad we took it. HAWKS!Kush said:^HAHAHAHA!
oh Deepak... come on dude. Doesnt matter who makes it out of your series. Miami Heat in the East.
I'm a little sad we wont be beating LA though.
Kobe= 15 seasons, over 1000 regular season games, over 200 playoff games + olympics/FIBANavkarn said:i disagree. its one thing to say it, and its another thing to actually go out and play like a crazy man and get the W. you know after all this lebron quitting on his team talk, look who kind of gave up on his today cough cough. he took bad shots, had 1 assist and created nothing for his teammates, lacked any fire in him ... to me that quote wasnt about desire, it was just stupid. prove me wrong, id love to see what you have against that pathetic display of leadership today.ENVY BANG-RUH said:Again, desire, show who has balls enough to say that knowing what the odds (98-0) are. It's over now, time to rebuild.Kush said:"Maybe I'm sick in the head..." - Kobe Bryant
Yup.
Lol except kobe opens his mouth and talks shit. We're gonna win? Yeah? Well then you show up with more gas, show up with your best basketball. Sorry Harman, you're giving Kobe credit based on his past and discrediting Lebron based on his. Present day? Kobe came out of halftime last game with no more fire than he went into half time with. A person who thinks his team will be the first to come back from a 3-0 deficit needs more "fire" than that. As if we havent seen him take over games this season? He did it in the Allstar Game.HarmanSingh said:Kobe= 15 seasons, over 1000 regular season games, over 200 playoff games + olympics/FIBANavkarn said:i disagree. its one thing to say it, and its another thing to actually go out and play like a crazy man and get the W. you know after all this lebron quitting on his team talk, look who kind of gave up on his today cough cough. he took bad shots, had 1 assist and created nothing for his teammates, lacked any fire in him ... to me that quote wasnt about desire, it was just stupid. prove me wrong, id love to see what you have against that pathetic display of leadership today.ENVY BANG-RUH said:Again, desire, show who has balls enough to say that knowing what the odds (98-0) are. It's over now, time to rebuild.Kush said:"Maybe I'm sick in the head..." - Kobe Bryant
Yup.
Lebron= 8 seasons, 600 regular season games, 79 playoff games
Kobe ran out of gas, he didn't give up. The guy is nearing the end of his career and its clear he is no longer the player he once was. Lebron had the energy, he lacked the focus and heart.
Yeah, Kobe is a proven champion and Lebron is not. I am going based on what they have accomplished not what they might accomplish. Expecting a guy who has played so many games and is towards the end of his career to carry a team is silly. The way the Lakers win is by Gasol, Bynum and Odom dominating other teams as superior bigs. Pau was MIA and their entire team looked soft. Comparing Kobe's game against the Mavs to Lebron's against the Celtics last year is comparing apples to oranges. Two guys at different points in their careers, on different teams.Kush said:Lol except kobe opens his mouth and talks shit. We're gonna win? Yeah? Well then you show up with more gas, show up with your best basketball. Sorry Harman, you're giving Kobe credit based on his past and discrediting Lebron based on his. Present day? Kobe came out of halftime last game with no more fire than he went into half time with. A person who thinks his team will be the first to come back from a 3-0 deficit needs more "fire" than that. As if we havent seen him take over games this season? He did it in the Allstar Game.HarmanSingh said:Kobe= 15 seasons, over 1000 regular season games, over 200 playoff games + olympics/FIBANavkarn said:i disagree. its one thing to say it, and its another thing to actually go out and play like a crazy man and get the W. you know after all this lebron quitting on his team talk, look who kind of gave up on his today cough cough. he took bad shots, had 1 assist and created nothing for his teammates, lacked any fire in him ... to me that quote wasnt about desire, it was just stupid. prove me wrong, id love to see what you have against that pathetic display of leadership today.ENVY BANG-RUH said:Again, desire, show who has balls enough to say that knowing what the odds (98-0) are. It's over now, time to rebuild.Kush said:"Maybe I'm sick in the head..." - Kobe Bryant
Yup.
Lebron= 8 seasons, 600 regular season games, 79 playoff games
Kobe ran out of gas, he didn't give up. The guy is nearing the end of his career and its clear he is no longer the player he once was. Lebron had the energy, he lacked the focus and heart.
Yeah? Except people DO expect Kobe to still take over games, to STILL be the most electric basketball player, to "carry" his team. AND HE ACTS LIKE HE CAN.HarmanSingh said:Yeah, Kobe is a proven champion and Lebron is not. I am going based on what they have accomplished not what they might accomplish. Expecting a guy who has played so many games and is towards the end of his career to carry a team is silly. The way the Lakers win is by Gasol, Bynum and Odom dominating other teams as superior bigs. Pau was MIA and their entire team looked soft. Comparing Kobe's game against the Mavs to Lebron's against the Celtics last year is comparing apples to oranges. Two guys at different points in their careers, on different teams.Kush said:Lol except kobe opens his mouth and talks shit. We're gonna win? Yeah? Well then you show up with more gas, show up with your best basketball. Sorry Harman, you're giving Kobe credit based on his past and discrediting Lebron based on his. Present day? Kobe came out of halftime last game with no more fire than he went into half time with. A person who thinks his team will be the first to come back from a 3-0 deficit needs more "fire" than that. As if we havent seen him take over games this season? He did it in the Allstar Game.HarmanSingh said:Kobe= 15 seasons, over 1000 regular season games, over 200 playoff games + olympics/FIBANavkarn said:i disagree. its one thing to say it, and its another thing to actually go out and play like a crazy man and get the W. you know after all this lebron quitting on his team talk, look who kind of gave up on his today cough cough. he took bad shots, had 1 assist and created nothing for his teammates, lacked any fire in him ... to me that quote wasnt about desire, it was just stupid. prove me wrong, id love to see what you have against that pathetic display of leadership today.ENVY BANG-RUH said:Again, desire, show who has balls enough to say that knowing what the odds (98-0) are. It's over now, time to rebuild.Kush said:"Maybe I'm sick in the head..." - Kobe Bryant
Yup.
Lebron= 8 seasons, 600 regular season games, 79 playoff games
Kobe ran out of gas, he didn't give up. The guy is nearing the end of his career and its clear he is no longer the player he once was. Lebron had the energy, he lacked the focus and heart.
An objective basketball fan (not a Laker bandwagoner or one of the Kobe obsessed fans) has seen Kobe lose a step the last couple seasons. Going into this season it was clear the team would need to rely on other players more. Sure, some expect Kobe to carry the Lakers. Those are the same people who have no idea what basketball is about. I am not sure what he is "acting like" but he is one of the greatest winners in NBA history. That is a fact. Lebron has not won anything of significance. That is also a fact. Therefore comparing the two is not fair, especially when Kobe is winding down his career and Lebron is in the prime of his.Kush said:Yeah? Except people DO expect Kobe to still take over games, to STILL be the most electric basketball player, to "carry" his team. AND HE ACTS LIKE HE CAN.HarmanSingh said:Yeah, Kobe is a proven champion and Lebron is not. I am going based on what they have accomplished not what they might accomplish. Expecting a guy who has played so many games and is towards the end of his career to carry a team is silly. The way the Lakers win is by Gasol, Bynum and Odom dominating other teams as superior bigs. Pau was MIA and their entire team looked soft. Comparing Kobe's game against the Mavs to Lebron's against the Celtics last year is comparing apples to oranges. Two guys at different points in their careers, on different teams.Kush said:Lol except kobe opens his mouth and talks shit. We're gonna win? Yeah? Well then you show up with more gas, show up with your best basketball. Sorry Harman, you're giving Kobe credit based on his past and discrediting Lebron based on his. Present day? Kobe came out of halftime last game with no more fire than he went into half time with. A person who thinks his team will be the first to come back from a 3-0 deficit needs more "fire" than that. As if we havent seen him take over games this season? He did it in the Allstar Game.HarmanSingh said:Kobe= 15 seasons, over 1000 regular season games, over 200 playoff games + olympics/FIBANavkarn said:i disagree. its one thing to say it, and its another thing to actually go out and play like a crazy man and get the W. you know after all this lebron quitting on his team talk, look who kind of gave up on his today cough cough. he took bad shots, had 1 assist and created nothing for his teammates, lacked any fire in him ... to me that quote wasnt about desire, it was just stupid. prove me wrong, id love to see what you have against that pathetic display of leadership today.ENVY BANG-RUH said:Again, desire, show who has balls enough to say that knowing what the odds (98-0) are. It's over now, time to rebuild.Kush said:"Maybe I'm sick in the head..." - Kobe Bryant
Yup.
Lebron= 8 seasons, 600 regular season games, 79 playoff games
Kobe ran out of gas, he didn't give up. The guy is nearing the end of his career and its clear he is no longer the player he once was. Lebron had the energy, he lacked the focus and heart.
As long as I've watched basketball, the closest i've ever seen ONE MAN taking his team to a championship is Lebron James. I dont know what else people expect.
lol, outrageous. So if you lose a step you should retire? It is not non-sense to believe the guy is getting older and can't will a team to victory anymore. The Lakers are not built for Kobe to carry them. Their strength has been their big men. Their big men didn't show up. If you notice Phil Jackson played Kobe a lot less this year, knowing he can't carry them night after night. Anyone who follows ball knows Kobe isn't the same Kobe from 3 or 4 years ago. That is what happens as you get older. Enough with Nash. The guy hasn't willed his team to anything or carried them through anything. And Grant Hill is not playing the best ball of his life. Im a Piston fan, I saw him at his best. Averaging 13/4 isnt' great.Navkarn said:if he's lost it that much he needs to retire. i don't buy that running out of gas non sense. there's players 5 years older than him playing the best basketball of their lives right now (grant hill & steve nash) ... if you can't play like the younger version of you, you need to re-invent yourself and contribute or get the hell out of the game. nash plays through a back condition that requires him to lie on the floor the whole game, he plays through tremendous groin pains and plays 110% every given night even knowing they werent playoff bound. kobe is nowhere near is end in my opinion and needs to not run his mouth if he cant walk the walk.