HarmanSingh said:
Navkarn said:
if he's lost it that much he needs to retire. i don't buy that running out of gas non sense. there's players 5 years older than him playing the best basketball of their lives right now (grant hill & steve nash) ... if you can't play like the younger version of you, you need to re-invent yourself and contribute or get the hell out of the game. nash plays through a back condition that requires him to lie on the floor the whole game, he plays through tremendous groin pains and plays 110% every given night even knowing they werent playoff bound. kobe is nowhere near is end in my opinion and needs to not run his mouth if he cant walk the walk.
lol, outrageous. So if you lose a step you should retire? It is not non-sense to believe the guy is getting older and can't will a team to victory anymore. The Lakers are not built for Kobe to carry them. Their strength has been their big men. Their big men didn't show up. If you notice Phil Jackson played Kobe a lot less this year, knowing he can't carry them night after night. Anyone who follows ball knows Kobe isn't the same Kobe from 3 or 4 years ago. That is what happens as you get older. Enough with Nash. The guy hasn't willed his team to anything or carried them through anything. And Grant Hill is not playing the best ball of his life. Im a Piston fan, I saw him at his best. Averaging 13/4 isnt' great.
Also, when did he "run his mouth"? Saying "I think we can come back from the 0-3 deficit" is standard procedure. You sound like a Suns fan who is still butthurt over years of abuse and letdowns.
how many basketball fans do you know that are "objective"? Lol being objective will tell you lebron is hitting his prime and kobe is in his decline. HOW MANY PEOPLE TRULY ADMIT THIS? Noone is claiming lebron has done MORE than kobe, but to hold onto his "actions" of the past is different than DEFINING him because of them. When he wins a championship will people stop talking about him "giving up" against boston? doubtful, because people are NOT OBJECTIVE.
From an OBJECTIVE STANCE (because i'm obviously biased), Kobe HAS lost a step. But he doesnt act like it. Doesnt talk like it. Doesnt admit it. So on our OWN we are supposed to decide to hold him to a lower standard? He's just as arrogant as ever, to believe his team was going to triumph? and did they even PUT UP A FIGHT? no, they were EMBARRASSED.
To be perfectly honest, I forget what we're arguing about now though haha
Lol its absolutely not standard procedure. 98/98. 100% is the statistic for teams to lose after going 3-0. Show some humility for having your ass handed to you night after night.